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6/28/2008 9:26 pm |
Hello NightDieu, i would say that man and woman are equal on this greed situation. A lot of situation like where they grow-up, the education they've received, the will to respect others,... would shape their actions toward greed. Take care
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 6/28/2008 10:37 pm |
Both are as greedy as the other! kk But sometimes greed is good! Have you seen "Wall Street" the movie? The famous line is "Greed is Good!". Greed makes people do things and interact. Greed makes me get off my seat and find a woman and greed makes the woman get out of her bed and find a man. Greed is a motivator. Too much greed is a problem. Not enough is also a problem... 
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6/29/2008 12:52 am |
Hello NightDieu, i would say that man and woman are equal on this greed situation. A lot of situation like where they grow-up, the education they've received, the will to respect others,... would shape their actions toward greed. Take care  But greedy is undeniable, (*^__^*) hee hee ......[blog NightDieu ^_^]Three cat biscuits!
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6/29/2008 12:55 am |
Both are as greedy as the other! kk But sometimes greed is good! Have you seen "Wall Street" the movie? The famous line is "Greed is Good!". Greed makes people do things and interact. Greed makes me get off my seat and find a woman and greed makes the woman get out of her bed and find a man. Greed is a motivator. Too much greed is a problem. Not enough is also a problem... [blog NightDieu ^_^]Three cat biscuits!
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6/29/2008 11:35 am |
With all due respect, I think this is quite idiotic question. This is as idiotic as other blogs about whether who is more evil, men or women. It isn't the genuine characteristic of men and women that are greedy it is the competitive structure of capitalist society that necessitates the increase of profit(greed) to survive. "If I could lead you into the promised land, i could lead you back out again."
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6/29/2008 11:38 pm |
With all due respect, I think this is quite idiotic question. This is as idiotic as other blogs about whether who is more evil, men or women. It isn't the genuine characteristic of men and women that are greedy it is the competitive structure of capitalist society that necessitates the increase of profit(greed) to survive. Primitive societies where people "share and care" are often only so because people face severe consequences for not doing so. Capitalistic society is in large part free and so we can witness people's true preferences and desires in their actions.
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7/1/2008 7:31 pm |
Dear Owen. I think you are sliding away from actual issue of this blog which questioned who is more greedy between men and women. Now to simply reply to your view on "natural instincts", I must say that is quite a outdated view. One of major qualities of journalism is to review "who", "where", "when", "what", "how" and "why". The notion of "natural instinct" is very fragile evidence in regard to the fact that it only emphasize on "who" and "what". Such limitation is evident due to the fact that it doesn't necessarily emphasize on actual empirical studies of human behavior in relation to various environments but rather strive to abstract the idea of "human", that is "human" as such through methodical articulation through metaphysical speculation. Even biologists will admit that the whole idea of articulating the scientific analysis of human behavior through biological evidence still can't reduce to absolute core of "human instinct" and they admit that substitution between Natural Science and Social Science is very crucial to understand human behaviors in regarding competition. As far as capitalist society, it is true that capitalist society is probably the most free society in the history of humankind. However we mustn't easily jump into conclusion by stating that "we can witness people's true preferences and desires in their actions" because in such society, majority of people can't even make a living based on "people's true preferences and desires" because of the necessity of economic subsistence. And it is also highly alienated society because of harsh competitions. My point was that such profit driven society doesn't discriminate between men and women when it comes to greed. "If I could lead you into the promised land, i could lead you back out again."
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7/5/2008 8:31 pm |
Dear Owen. I think you are sliding away from actual issue of this blog which questioned who is more greedy between men and women. Now to simply reply to your view on "natural instincts", I must say that is quite a outdated view. One of major qualities of journalism is to review "who", "where", "when", "what", "how" and "why". The notion of "natural instinct" is very fragile evidence in regard to the fact that it only emphasize on "who" and "what". Such limitation is evident due to the fact that it doesn't necessarily emphasize on actual empirical studies of human behavior in relation to various environments but rather strive to abstract the idea of "human", that is "human" as such through methodical articulation through metaphysical speculation. Even biologists will admit that the whole idea of articulating the scientific analysis of human behavior through biological evidence still can't reduce to absolute core of "human instinct" and they admit that substitution between Natural Science and Social Science is very crucial to understand human behaviors in regarding competition. As far as capitalist society, it is true that capitalist society is probably the most free society in the history of humankind. However we mustn't easily jump into conclusion by stating that "we can witness people's true preferences and desires in their actions" because in such society, majority of people can't even make a living based on "people's true preferences and desires" because of the necessity of economic subsistence. And it is also highly alienated society because of harsh competitions. My point was that such profit driven society doesn't discriminate between men and women when it comes to greed. I am sorry but the majority of reasoned scientific opinion (and eveidence) disagrees with you. There are inner characteristics of people that transcend which society or other they are born into. We can start off with the use of language and building of houses...and finish with common traits that people exhibit. One of the most common ones being that people within the clan or family are shared with but those outside of the family or clan unit are treated with caution and less is given to them. This follows with the idea that when you put 300 million people onto one landmass and try to get them to interact then the predominant mode of interaction will be a mixture of in-clan/family and out of family/clan behaviours. You can't tell me that it is a human trait to naturally share with strangers from outside their clan or family structure because histroy shows such people are more likely to be killed before being offered food.
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7/8/2008 8:02 pm |
I won't necessarily say that human being are simply the product of society. We are also product of natural environments. I won't necessarily say that there are no internal element that also influences human behavior. However, our biological conditions are also heavily influenced by nutritions that we are also custom of. To simply say that human being are product of society where there is no internal biological elements that also influences human behavior is overly one-sided. But it is also overly one-sided to claim that it is this "natural instinct" that exclusively determines human behavior. Some of scientists are institutionalized from intellectual tradition that presupposes the existence of ultimate unchangeable evidence that define the Absolute Truth. Such tradition was actually from philosophy which most of philosophers now questions. Lots of scientists argument is based upon objective evidence with their own intellectual interpretation. But most of them really can't connect their empirical studies with their "philosophical" presupposition. You claim that "majority of reasoned scientific opinion" disagree with me. Science is in constant change and there are also scientists who WILL agree with me on this one. Even the debate between "naturalism" and "nurturism" is considered as backward view for majority of scientists. One of evolutionary biologist named Stephen Jay Gould stated that there are diversities of evidence in human body that can influence human behavior from aggression, competition and violence as well as compassion, coexistence and harmony. BUT which aspects plays the dominant role is also heavily influenced by society. THIS Mr. Gould also admitted. You mentioned about language. It's interesting. One of prominent linguist named Noam Chomsky actually used the term "human nature" as factor that lead human to speak language. In other word, for Chomsky, what language we speak is determined by society but the fact that we all speak languages are the reflection of "human nature". As I said, I don't necessarily disagree with biological studies that there are internal elements that also shapes human behavior. But I feel your view is overly one-sided by completely ignoring(and denying......apparently) the aspect of social and cultural influences. And I also disagree that such inner element have unchanging universal characteristic. As I have stated earlier, that seem to fall into simple metaphysical speculation without actual evidence. "If I could lead you into the promised land, i could lead you back out again."
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