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is it true dat obama 's plan, once elected as president, is to turn the globe into 1 $ nation??? wut does this mean??? r we headed for socialism ??? r we headed for capitalism ??? is obama really representing people of our nation??? or is he just da face bought by much more powerful organization ??? wuts da difference btween police state & 1$ nation??? |
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10/26/2008 11:14 pm |
toxic & je te... USA trying to dominate the world ??? & rest of the world's going to just sit & watch??? i do believe USA have good # of enemies already... i agree both republican & democrats interests r same but the way republicans going about gaining the domination of the world is much more sensible than democrats... Republicans plan is to take it slow, lets plant watch posts all over the globe but wait for the perfect time to move in for the kill ... Its okei to gain few enemies along the line cuz Those few enemies won't b able to strike back if we move in @ perfect time... Now ... I think some superior power that was comtrolling the affairs of our world realized the plan of republicans & decided to use democrats to speed the process of world dominations which totally is wrong timing & cuz bigger disaster for USA... Would eliminate the most powerful competition without any effort... so wut i'm trying to say is obama's plan to turn globe into 1$ nation actually seems to b more of a plan from certain ruling organization to destroy USA ...
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10/22/2008 9:56 pm |
TCB9Toxic's answer is partially correct and wrong at same time. The difference between Democrats and Republicans aren't really "left" and "right" but rather it is "center-right" and "far-right". They are both supporters of imperialism and desire global domination. TCB9Toxic have stated that Republicans have been trying to rule the world for 60 years. Only the Republicans? I have answered this already. Only 60 years? United States have participated the imperialist war which was globally waging at the late 19th Century between Britain, France, Germany, Russian Empire, Japanese Empire and United States. That is actually entire century. And it was only since the end of World War II when Europe was destroyed and Britain went bankrupt that United States rose as top imperialist power along with Soviet Union. And as we all know, Cold War lasted until early 90's when Soviet Union lost. So basically U.S. intention for global domination goes all the way back century ago and to assume that it was only 60 years ago isn't entirely true. And as far as American citizens in general, TCB9Toxic's view is absolutely false. There are strong anti-war movement whom also share solidarity with anti-war movement cross the world. Support for war in Iraq have dropped enormously. It is true that there are certain conservative people who still support the war but it simply is ignorant to say that they represents the majority of people in United States. TCB9Toxic also insulted U.S. president of not knowing the world map. Which is true. lol However, it will be simply foolish and naive if TCB9Toxic actually think it is the president who is actually in control. It is the corporate power who are in control of U.S. politic and it is through their network with U.S. government that they are truly the engine behind the U.S. imperialism. Take a look at the role of Carlyle Corporation in relation to U.S. foreign policy or UNICAL Oil Company's role of war in Afghanistan or Halliburton Oil Company's role in Iraq war, these are the ruling class of United States who are in control of U.S. foreign policy and imperialist domination. Most of American people either don't support these ruling classes, nor aren't aware of it. But to assume that it is the "minds of most American people" that wants global domination is simplified error. Most of American people are either very depoliticized or those who have political consciousness oppose this. As far as U.S. being police state, it is true that there is strong atmosphere that it might lead to that however, to simply claiming that it is "already" police state is simply wrong too. When it comes to freedom of press, U.S. is still democratic. The fact that socialist movement in U.S is actually growing and such phenomena won't happen under police state. I live in Chicago which have third largest socialist population next to New York and San Francisco in United States. And in Chicago we have both national and midwestern socialist conferences each years without any police violence. Which is sign that U.S. isn't police state yet and people still have chance to fight against such possibility. "If I could lead you into the promised land, i could lead you back out again."
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10/20/2008 11:12 am |
toxic... republicans oppose da idea of 1$ nation..... raged moreso & don't believe for a sec dat is even remotely possible... i totally agree w u about how this could create more enemies around da world... so u think we americans stupid enuf to corner ourselves into dat kinda situation??? So this discussion kinda answers da Q about whose backing obama...or should I say whose not backing obama??? By the democrats you hear at least soome logical arguments. Sarah Palin vice-president is like cruella de vill and mother teresa in one. THE TERROR ITSELF the continue of the bush-admin GOOD LUCK to the world. if you prefer to help that this world ends..and "jesus come for second time" then support the newbornchristians... i prefer to live
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10/19/2008 10:31 pm |
JAMIE excuse my own ignorance. Even i live in HK i know which candidate belongs to which party. I am not a President like this from your own country, who doesnt even open a Worldmap to know so about where every country is. I think the wish to rule the world IS Republican but also Democratical (OBAMA) BUT worst !!! it is in the mind of most american people. YOU live already in an police state..(even this small comment in a "friendfinder blog" will be register from YOUR security services!! And the plan to make the dollar the onlyone currency in this world it comes from the time short before WW2. I hope that Euro can give a balance in this system and that the recent financial incidents gives to many people the feeling THAT they have rather to cooperate then to dominate. If the ignorance is still a part of your=all american people then i see around only enemys. Nobody likes to have a boss. All need an idol. An idol is to admire- not to fear, to love - not to hate. my criticism is that as well demos..as reps are have actually the same plan. Only difference reps are following that with war, demos with some more words. and excuse any offendung. i mind it in a good way. republicans oppose da idea of 1$ nation..... raged moreso & don't believe for a sec dat is even remotely possible... i totally agree w u about how this could create more enemies around da world... so u think we americans stupid enuf to corner ourselves into dat kinda situation??? So this discussion kinda answers da Q about whose backing obama...or should I say whose not backing obama???
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10/19/2008 9:00 pm |
toxic??? Pardon my ignorance but u were confusing me for awhile... wasnt sure wether u were criticizing obama who actually is democrat for his ridiculous plan to rule da world or is ur criticism toward republicans for insinuating democrats of such plan ??? but then i took a look @ ur profile & realized ur in hong kong .... Mite not even know who represents which party ~ Btw.... My long time client is 65 yrs old caucasian who is a very polital person... i am confident to say its not a joke made up by online loonies... excuse my own ignorance. Even i live in HK i know which candidate belongs to which party. I am not a President like this from your own country, who doesnt even open a Worldmap to know so about where every country is. I think the wish to rule the world IS Republican but also Democratical (OBAMA) BUT worst !!! it is in the mind of most american people. YOU live already in an police state..(even this small comment in a "friendfinder blog" will be register from YOUR security services!! And the plan to make the dollar the onlyone currency in this world it comes from the time short before WW2. I hope that Euro can give a balance in this system and that the recent financial incidents gives to many people the feeling THAT they have rather to cooperate then to dominate. If the ignorance is still a part of your=all american people then i see around only enemys. Nobody likes to have a boss. All need an idol. An idol is to admire- not to fear, to love - not to hate. my criticism is that as well demos..as reps are have actually the same plan. Only difference reps are following that with war, demos with some more words. and excuse any offendung. i mind it in a good way.
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10/19/2008 3:37 pm |
i liked it..!!! America and dollar will dominate the world... it is a nice joke.. First please pay the loans for the homes and then the chinese you borrow the states trillions and then also the soldiers all over the world where you do try rule and then come and talk abpout rulling the world. i hope for some less ignorance. Are all the people in kff republicans and neoliberals, new born christians? or what? No common sense??? wasnt sure wether u were criticizing obama who actually is democrat for his ridiculous plan to rule da world or is ur criticism toward republicans for insinuating democrats of such plan ??? but then i took a look @ ur profile & realized ur in hong kong .... Mite not even know who represents which party ~ Btw.... My long time client is 65 yrs old caucasian who is a very polital person... i am confident to say its not a joke made up by online loonies...
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10/18/2008 9:20 pm |
i liked it..!!! America and dollar will dominate the world... it is a nice joke.. First please pay the loans for the homes and then the chinese you borrow the states trillions and then also the soldiers all over the world where you do try rule and then come and talk abpout rulling the world. i hope for some less ignorance. Are all the people in kff republicans and neoliberals, new born christians? or what? No common sense???
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10/18/2008 2:37 pm |
je-te..... thanx for very thorough answers to all my Qs... as i am pressed for time as i always m on saturdays , can only reply to u about 1$ nation.... as Euro is united currency system now in most part of europe, obama 's plan is to turn the world's currency system into one united $ system... where did i hear dat? From my long time very very republican client.... i have my own interesting crazy theory about who actually mite b behind obama... was gonna write blog on my theory but i know dare no longer exists freedom of speech better yet freedom of press .... W dat in my mind , posted kinda rhetorical blog to c if anyone else in kff knew of wut im referring to... anyhow..... Running late ~ bbl 
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10/18/2008 1:06 am |
Hello lovely jamiexoxo. I actually posted a blog couple weeks ago titled "HEADED TOWARD POLICE STATE?????" and "'CHANGE' THAT OBAMA BELIEVE" which I think answer some of your question. Is it true that Obama's plan, once elected as president, is to turn the globe into one dollar nation? I personally didn't understood the question there. LOL If you are asking if Obama's plan is to turn U.S. into "number one" nation, I think that was the gold for every American presidents who have been elected. But as you questioned "wut does this mean???" That basically means U.S. capital will be the most dominant force in world market and that every ruling classes of other major capitalist nations will have to adjust to U.S. government and market force of U.S. ruling classes. What does it mean for middle and working class in U.S.? Just same continuation of what was happening in U.S. in last couple of decades. Middle class will be destabilized and become reduced to working class while poverty will increase as more working class people are going to suffer from it. U.S. working class still will be richest poor among other poor around the world but due to the widening of gap between rich and poor in the States, lives of working class will become more difficult. Are we headed for socialism? Not even close. If we use standard definition of "socialism" which is simplified as "state run economy" and considering the fact that we are facing highest nationalization of U.S. capital than ever before, it might seem as though we are headed for "socialism". But this standard definition is really a Stalinist revisionism and is simply incorrect in regard to actual socialism. Socialism is essentially workers' movement to basically abolish any system of exploitation for alternative of workers' self-emancipation. And such "alternative" wasn't simply separation of workers from capitalist society but was overthrowing capitalism for socialist society where economic and political administrations will be run by workers. And also socialism is essentially workers' international movement. Because this "alternative" which I have mentioned in earlier paragraph can't be established without strong sense of unity and solidarity. Such movement was shaped and developed since mid 19th Century. And workers' revolution was first victorious in Russia during 1917 but Soviet Union took its "u-turn" when Stalin took over power. Unlike Lenin, Stalin officially claim that Soviet Union is "socialist" country by disregarded "internationalism" of workers' struggle in favor of his "socialism in one country". So as Woodrow Wilson identified United States as a nation of "democracy" and holds that special and exceptional role of spreading this "democracy" even by force, Joseph Stalin also identified Soviet Union in same manner that it is a privilege and exceptional country(the first country) that have established "socialism" and have that special role in world history of spreading this "socialism" to other country (and like U.S.) even by force. So what is Stalinist revision of "socialism"? It is betrayal of workers' struggle in favor of state control. It is bureaucratization of party dictatorship rather than the "self-emancipation of workers". It is nationalist chauvinism in favor of internationalism. It is betrayal of workers' freedom of speech and press in the banner of "fighting against U.S. imperialism". In other word, any workers who have criticized Soviet politics were immediately accused of being the supporters of U.S. imperialism....despite the fact that lots of criticism of Soviet politic was actually made by those who were socialists. Actually Stalin have imprisoned socialists as much as we did in United States during "MacCarthyist" era. Now doesn't this sound more like current United States? PATRIOT ACT and "War on Terror"? Only thing we didn't had was general nationalization and we are also headed toward that direction. And that is the common controversy now in regarding with banners such as "socialism for rich" or "Walstreet socialism" and so on. Are we headed for capitalism? We don't have to be "headed" for capitalism because we are living in capitalist society. However I do like to say this one thing. There are definitely certain concern about this inclination toward "socialism" or I would like to call it "American Stalinism" and that isn't really about the worries of developing oppressive regime against American working class because U.S. is in such condition now. What is common concern among pundits are that nationalization will reduce any free market for major corporations. Is Obama really representing people of our nation? Now we have to be more careful with these terms like "people" or "nation" because if we are living in capitalist society which is structured in class system, we must question which class are we talking about when we say "people" and are we also considering working class when we are talking about "nation"? The answer is no. Obama (and McCain too) will say that they represent the "people" of "our nation" but if we should unveil their propaganda, things are more clear. Obama is representing the ruling class. Or is he just the face bought by much more powerful organization? Yes just like any other American presidents. Obama have took chunks of political funds from major corporations as much as McCain did. Obama actually took political funds from insurance companies who want to influence Obama's policy of universal healthcare. Obama also took $213,000 from those who work in companies of oil and gas industry for his campaign contribution. But Obama isn't particularly different from McCain or any other U.S. presidents from past. This is just capitalist system. What is the different between police state and 1$ nation? What is "1$ nation"? "If I could lead you into the promised land, i could lead you back out again."
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