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Computers: Pros and Cons
bintijua
5/7/2008 1:46 am

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frenchguy38
541 posts 

5/7/2008 2:43 am

Memories2Me

5/7/2008 5:16 am

I really like to read more about people's comment on this. I am thinking about changing my laptop 'tho from HP to Apple. Pardon me bin for posting more question without an answer. I belong in the stone age!

madkore
353 posts 

5/7/2008 10:45 am

Major Pro - Most Viruses, Trojans, and Spyware are programs that are written for PCs.

fawnzee1
266 posts 

5/7/2008 5:55 pm

Should I expect more comments and advice on this topic or is this it? LOL Please provide details in elementary format as I'm barely in the middle school of technology. lol

Again, you bring up a great topic, Binti. Thanks!

frenchguy38
541 posts 

5/7/2008 7:07 pm

hummm... Apple's computers look good.
My computer knowledge stop at this point...

korn2020
1440 posts

5/7/2008 8:47 pm

Korn to the rescue !!! I have read alot about this very subject.
Apple/Mac are less prone to Virus and Spyware. Im assuming your
old HP used Windows o/s. Apple/Mac have made vast improvements
over the last 5 years. Bill Gates has been quoted as saying
Apple is the one to watch for the next 10 years. Steve Jobs
the founder of Apple is back as CEO of the company.

bintijua
313 posts 

5/7/2008 10:36 pm

Thanks, Korn.

Anyone else have anything to add?
(Where is Sean Kim?)

1. Apple is less prone to Virus and Spyware.
2. Apple made a vast improvements over the past 5 years.
3. Bill Gates acknowledged Apple's advancement for the next 10 yrs.

bintijua
313 posts 

5/7/2008 10:40 pm

    Quoting frenchguy38:
    hummm... Apple's computers look good.
    My computer knowledge stop at this point...
Yeah, the Apple computers (both laptops and desktops) are sleek in their appearance. Have you seen their new very thin laptop?

seanmkim
70 posts 

5/7/2008 11:52 pm

Apple is more expensive but it's got a better operating system plus you can have both OS 10 and Windows installed on it.
Also it has better graphics and applications for photo editing and what not. I'd get one of these!

bintijua
313 posts 

5/8/2008 1:59 am

    Quoting seanmkim:
    Apple is more expensive but it's got a better operating system plus you can have both OS 10 and Windows installed on it.
    Also it has better graphics and applications for photo editing and what not. I'd get one of these!
Hey Sean,

I am considering the Apple desktop, 20-inch iMac 2.66 GHz (2GB memory, 320GB hard drive). The next choice would be the 24-inch iMac 2.8 GHz (the same memory and hard drive as the 20-inch).
Is there a significant difference between 2.66GHz and 2.8GHz ??

bintijua
313 posts 

5/8/2008 2:01 am

    Quoting madkore:
    Major Pro - Most Viruses, Trojans, and Spyware are programs that are written for PCs.
You were/are right, Madkore.

Memories2Me

5/9/2008 6:56 am

I guess it's just preference then? Not that one is better then the other?

Most software if it reads" require window xx, it means I can't install in to apple right? Or is there converting program for Apple that allows me to install my old softwares such as Microsoft Works?

It I can't.. to me it's not worth it.. It'll be spending more money buying softwares then to replace a laptop

fawnzee1
266 posts 

5/9/2008 5:19 pm

Ah.... I love all you people!! You are all contributing to my knowledge expansion!

comiclife

5/11/2008 12:44 pm

I have used Mac Computers including MacBook, Mac Pro, and Mac compter cluster. I strongly recommend Mac rather than Windows.

As long as you use Mac, you don't worry about virus at all. Once the computer alert security update, just do it and that's all you need to do.

Also, I believe that Mac provide more user-friendly interface, comparing two operating system between Mac and MS-Windos.

Applications? unless you use illegal copies of application, you can have all softwares that you want to install.

I bet Mac!

bintijua
313 posts 

5/11/2008 3:03 pm

    Quoting comiclife:
    I have used Mac Computers including MacBook, Mac Pro, and Mac compter cluster. I strongly recommend Mac rather than Windows.

    As long as you use Mac, you don't worry about virus at all. Once the computer alert security update, just do it and that's all you need to do.

    Also, I believe that Mac provide more user-friendly interface, comparing two operating system between Mac and MS-Windos.

    Applications? unless you use illegal copies of application, you can have all softwares that you want to install.

    I bet Mac!
Great.
I am now convinced that I am making the right choice.
Thanks, comiclife.

Another question:

What do you do with all the stored information on your old computer that you are about to throw away ? Is there a software that collects all the information out of your computer and delete them or something?

korn2020
1440 posts

5/12/2008 5:49 am

Bin, you create a back up disk....then do a full system recovery, this will erase all the stuff on your old computer. The recovery
takes your computer back in time to the day you took it out of
the box.

bintijua
313 posts 

5/12/2008 9:10 am

    Quoting korn2020:
    Bin, you create a back up disk....then do a full system recovery, this will erase all the stuff on your old computer. The recovery
    takes your computer back in time to the day you took it out of
    the box.
Create a "back up disk"?
"Full system recovery"?

So, I get a blank disk, put it into the computer? and then click something? LOL. Please help... step by step, anyone.
As you can see, Memories, Fawn, and I are anxiously waiting.

comiclife

5/12/2008 8:30 pm

Before you throw your old computer away.
Classified all files that you frequently used.
For example, word processing file such as MS word and Excel keep those your Document file. These files are compatible to Mac. Also your image such as your photos save into the same fold or create sub folder into Your domcument folder.

If you have music files, manage seperated folder because it will occupy huge size.

Keep doing in this way.
Finally, why don't you buy memory stick? Nowadays they provide 4G storage. Save all you folder and move it to your new Mac.

huh huh, I am so tired now

bintijua
313 posts 

5/14/2008 1:26 am

So, I can use the memory stick to collect and save all those information folders and then transfer them to my new Mac via the memory stick (as long as they are compatible)?

Thanks a lot, comiclife.
Sorry we made you so tired. Haha..

madkore
353 posts 

5/14/2008 4:55 pm

Bin,

What you have to do is "reformat" the computer.

This erases the hard drive and reinstalls a clean version of Windows.

But in reality, the only way to stop someone from accessing old information on a computer is to remove your hard drive, and fire it into the sun. There have been leaps and bounds improvements in data recovery, and most data you delete isn't really deleted. Pretty much anything can be recovered these days from any computer.

Another MAC plus.

Windows Vista (the newest Windows OS) SUCKS!

Many savvy computer geeks are installing the old versions of Windows XP instead.

There will not be a noticeable difference between 2.66ghz and 2.80 ghz. Unless you are doing processor intensive applications like video editing, you won't even notice.

Better to have them max out your memory instead.
What is the max?
Can they install 4GB of memory as an option?

MK

Memories2Me

5/14/2008 7:41 pm

This has became very insightful. I'll continue to check on this post and thank you all.. especially to you, binti, for great post!

frenchguy38
541 posts 

5/18/2008 11:53 pm

humm... Korn says to create a back-up disk. what is that ?
Do i have scotch-tape a CD on the back of my computer...
jeezz... i'm really not into computer.

BTW, does a CD that i use to put music on can be used to backup the data ? or is it a specific CD ?

formandfunction
112 posts 

5/28/2008 7:11 pm

I have used both Macs and PCs for years, and I prefer Mac quality and workmanship. You'll have a better ownership experience with Apple products, but there are drawbacks.

Most productivity software versions are either better on the PC, or get earlier releases due to market dominance. Also, lots of third-party software, games, messengers, etc. come out on the PC first (or exclusively), or have a better feature set than the Mac versions, so I would just partition your drive and install Windows in the event there is something you want to run on the PC side, that you can't on the Mac.

Unless you are running Adobe Suite, Logic Pro, Reason, or other resource heavy-software, you can get the 2.6 Ghz chip. Most people don't run resource-heavy software. Get the 2.8Ghz, only if you do not mind spending the extra money. 2GB RAM is enough too, so you'll be OK.

I STRONGLY recommend you buy the Apple Care protection plan for the Mac. I had a hard-drive go out after a year, and it was covered. Also, my iPod died, and it was replaced. If I didn't have the coverage, I would have had to pay for that myself. That happened once with an iMac that chronically overheated...and died. It can get expensive to repair/ replace...so make sure you get the coverage. Only 10% of the Apple products I've purchased have failed, but the coverage is definitely worth it.

Take care,
f/f

bintijua
313 posts 

6/1/2008 8:51 pm

    Quoting formandfunction:
    I have used both Macs and PCs for years, and I prefer Mac quality and workmanship. You'll have a better ownership experience with Apple products, but there are drawbacks.

    Most productivity software versions are either better on the PC, or get earlier releases due to market dominance. Also, lots of third-party software, games, messengers, etc. come out on the PC first (or exclusively), or have a better feature set than the Mac versions, so I would just partition your drive and install Windows in the event there is something you want to run on the PC side, that you can't on the Mac.

    Unless you are running Adobe Suite, Logic Pro, Reason, or other resource heavy-software, you can get the 2.6 Ghz chip. Most people don't run resource-heavy software. Get the 2.8Ghz, only if you do not mind spending the extra money. 2GB RAM is enough too, so you'll be OK.

    I STRONGLY recommend you buy the Apple Care protection plan for the Mac. I had a hard-drive go out after a year, and it was covered. Also, my iPod died, and it was replaced. If I didn't have the coverage, I would have had to pay for that myself. That happened once with an iMac that chronically overheated...and died. It can get expensive to repair/ replace...so make sure you get the coverage. Only 100f the Apple products I've purchased have failed, but the coverage is definitely worth it.

    Take care,
    f/f
Thanks, forman.
I did not purchase the protection plan for the MacPro... which would be about $350. They told me I have one year to purchase it, so I need to make up my mind soon. The protection plan for iMac would be about $160. In other words, it'd cost me more than $500 just for the protection plan/s.

Bribook
26 posts

6/28/2008 6:12 am

I use a MacBook (running OS 10.5 Leopard), and it's my third Mac laptop. I also have an old iBook G4.

I also have a PC laptop that I HATED using, so I gave it to my daughter. She likes her PC, but she's on my MacBook any chance she gets. She tells me, "Dad, your computer is just faster and easier to use!"

We use the 20-inch iMacs at my office, and they're gorgeous! Definitely get one of those, if you haven't already.

~ Brian

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